Texas Governor Rick Perry ruined an otherwise decent performance at last night’s Republican debate when he failed to recall the third federal agency he’d abolish as president.
“[T]he fact of the matter is we better have a plan in place that Americans can get their hands around,” he started out. “And that’s a reason my flat tax is the only one of all of the folks — these good folks on the stage, it balance the budget in 2020. It does the things to the regulatory climate that has to happen. And I will tell ya, it’s three agencies of government when I get there that are gone. Commerce, Education, and the, uh, uh, what’s the third one there? Let’s see.”
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) tried throwing Perry a lifeline. “EPA?” he asked.
“EPA, there you go,” Perry quickly belted out as he nervously and sheepishly smiled. However, debate moderator John Harwood of CNBC wasn’t going to let Perry off the hook that easily. “Seriously, is the EPA the one you were talking about?” Harwood asked.
The rest of the exchange went like this:
PERRY: “Nosir, nosir. We were talking about the agencies of government — the EPA needs to be rebuilt. There’s no doubt about that.”
HARWOOD: But you can’t — but you can’t name the third one?
PERRY: “The third agency of government I would — I would do away with, the Education, uh, the uh…
SOMEONE SHOUTS: “Commerce.”
PERRY: “Commerce and, let’s see. I can’t. The third one, I can’t. Sorry. Oops.”
Simply stunning.
The gaffe caused shock among pundits who were watching in real-time.
“To my memory, Perry’s forgetfulness is the most devastating moment of any modern primary debate,” said University of Virginia Center for Politics Director Larry Sabato.
“That might be the most uncomfortable moment I’ve ever witnessed in presidential politics,” said National Review’s Rich Lowry.
“If Perry’s candidacy wasn’t already over, it’s hard to see how he recovers from this embarassing moment,” added The Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein.
Perry recovered a few minutes later, responding to the next question lobbed at him by explaining that he meant to say the Department of Energy. And later, Perry made an appearance in the spin room, telling reporters that he’s lucky to have been wearing his boots because he “sure stepped in it.”
Hard to see the mud coming off this time, though.